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Fruit tree gleaning phoenix (thorn apple)

Grafting, anyone? I'm in the middle of making my own pond with a ladder and a bucket, and I'm wondering what kind of support I could use to keep the branches of a fruit tree (probably an apple) growing straight down from the trunk.

Right now I'm hanging individual twigs of branches on long sections of 4x4 with a twisty bit in the middle.

Does anybody have any advice on what I should use to support the branches from the fruit tree to the bucket?

The kind of timber that I can easily find around here is 8' 8x8, so I'll probably have to bring in 2x timber (not really the most attractive solution).

Just wondering if there is anything like a miter joint that can be put on it, or something. Any suggestions?

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I just made a stand today for my peaches. This type of thing is not easy, but I got something good out of it, I think.

I used 3" lag screws. Each pair of screws I used was 6 inches long. I put the screws 1/2 inch from the end of the 2x6. I also used 5/16 inch pipe clamps.

I was planning on just using 2 x 6's because I didn't want to put them into the ground. In the end I used the 4x6's because they were shorter.

I did this for a couple of reasons. First, I wanted the spikes on the tree to be higher than the spurs. Secondly, I was going to hang my bench (still haven't made it) and I wanted the bench to be lower than the spurs. The screws were about 3" above the lowest spurs and about 2" above the lowest branch. I thought that this would be a good level for a bench.

I'm planning on finishing the stand in the next week or so. Once I finish it I'm planning on planting some peaches in it. I'm curious to see how they do after I plant them.

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Sorry if my post was too random, but I didn't know if anyone would come back to this thread. I didn't want to hijack the thread for my question, so I went ahead and started another thread.

Sylvie,

Thanks for posting your link. I've looked at the stand you have there and thought about doing something similar, but I think I'll go with a more permanent solution. I have a 22x6" piece of scrap 2x8 that I will take out to the garage and sand down to 15x12" and use that as my 2x6 support. The problem with using a 2x6 is that it is only 6" above the fruit on the tree and 4" above the bench. My question is: Can I make it a good fit between the stand and bench or do I need to find a piece of lumber that is the same size as the piece I'm using?

"Nothing ever sets back the garden much, it always returns." Jonathan Swift

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Gardenguy,

That's a great idea to use a piece of scrap that can go in the garage and sand down. That piece of scrap is 10 ft. long so I would cut that in half. Make sure to add at least 1/8 of an inch to the width and length. I've seen people nail 1/2" screws or 1/4" screws (with longer thread lengths) into the end grain on scrap pieces of lumber and then you can cut them to length as needed. You'll also want to check on the legality of doing something like this as some places have a height limit on them.

"Nothing ever sets back the garden much, it always returns." Jonathan Swift

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Gardenguy,

Thanks for the quick reply.

That's a great idea and I'm going to use some of those end grain nails. I didn't think about using the nails for this application though. I don't think there are many regulations in regards to end grain nails. I'm sure someone can post something that says something about using those nails for building things like a bench.

"Nothing ever sets back the garden much, it always returns." Jonathan Swift

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I've got your same size bench, if you're going to be putting a bench directly in the ground, I would probably use 4x6 boards for the bench sides, and cut the end up so that the bench is sitting in the ground level.

You don't need to have anything fancy for the top though - you could use 2x12's or some other standard length lumber. (saved this wood because it's been cut for me) - give or take an inch or two.

If you do want a more sophisticated/craftsman-like look, I'd get some thinner plywood (MDF or something that is really thin). - that'll allow you to leave it with the planks sticking out in your tree trunk. You could also wrap that plywood around the whole bench. I would plan to have a piece of plywood 4 or 5 inches deep, so it fills the bench void. (for about 20x24 you'd need 4 or 5 sheets of plywood)

I don't know how it is in TX, but I'd probably ask your local lumber yard or something about how to get a permit.

If you were going to make it as a permanent part of your garden, I would plan on building the tree support a little sturdier than you would just for temporary use.

I was going to make it all in one shot. So, for the parts that I use, the bench would just be taking up all the empty space between the existing supports


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